From all Ive read, it seems Bona Traffic HD is the way to go on the finish coats. If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. We went with that because the sample board looked exactly like the bare sanded wood, which is what we wanted. But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years? You will save a little compared to Traffic HD, perhaps $0.25 psf. You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. In real life, they dont have as much brown as in the photo. My contractor said that I will probably need to use the renew oil every few year which I am fine with. I am on info overload. If you are paying for professional grade products, just make sure you are GETTING professional grade products. While I am not happy that we are all having this issue - I am somewhat relived to see that I am actulally not losing my mind that this look should be achievable in some fashion . Will Bona Mega keep the wood color natural and avoid yellowing over time? They are not the same color as my white oak, but shes happy with them. WebIt was natural that he should seek an education in that city and from that institution, for both were allied to him by ties of no ordinary significance. @Hughey do you know what process for bleaching? It was applied Saturday morning.". It is engineered 7 - to be finished on site. The 'oil based' finishes that base costs of a finish allow 45 MINUTES of wet edge. Combining Bona NaturalSeal with a matte-sheen finish such as Bona Traffic Naturale preserves that look and gives your floor the Erfahren Sie hierzu mehr in der Houzz Cookie-Richtlinie. Cant decide! Mega One is a clear non-yellowing finish. Bona is designed to be 'hot coated' that is to say it does BEST when coat 1 and coat 2 (like sealant and then 1st coat of finish) come in quick succession (less than 24 hours but nothing less than the 'minimum time between coats'). @tkgriff Thanks for sharing the photos. Hd and Supra extra matte does not. Loba in any of its water based formats (low gloss keeps it from looking "finished") options will do exactly what you want. It could be as low as $2/sf. ), Make sure your installer has experience using the Bona products and especially the Nordic. It has been a nightmare trying to find this look in my area. They have been through such an immense amount of heat and pressure during formation that all the sand grains have become crystals of Quartz. We see it FAR to often (as in DAILY) on this forum. They just don't get any DARKER over time. There are MUCH better systems out there - especially in the water based finishes. Give a price you can make a living off of and let someone else win the low ball estimates. I love the natural, light color of the hardwood. Question - is there a reason a floor may take or need less finish? This was such a great informative thread. WebBona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. That's how building law works. BTW after the fabricator installed the countertops (and carefully covered them to protect them), other contractors uncovered them and used them as a work bench and scratched them up - a lot! If so, they are normal surface marking, nothing to worry about. @widdy23 Seems like everything is taking longer than expected. We are looking for the same - any update on what you ended up using? Webariel winters leaked what is 2 5 as a decimal holiday craft fairs near me 2022 Which one did you end up going with? I prefer to see 3 coats of the finishbut the Bona sealants are designed to be 'film building' sealants so they will add to the performance. Those are STUNNING! are you happy with these floors or wish you would have gone darker? Someone posted on here that if you like a just washed look reconsider using matte. The Bona Traffic HD is three steps higher than Mega. @mtpo We are also considering the Bona nordic seal on white oak. I did not pick our stain only from photos, we went to other houses and had samples done. Here are our raw floors right now. Getting gloomy from cool gray? The edge is not as nicely finished as the Corian. Another thread I found talks about Rubio mono coat. There are some finishes that are a 'high-gloss satin' but I don't know where Bona Traffic HD satin sits on the glossy or not gloss level. This looks to be pretty natural with a very matte finish. It looks like the grain is *very* deep on the board to the left. Finally, I coated half of my sample with their Fortico Satin and I could not see the poly at all. WebWhen refinishing oak floors, achieving a natural/untreated look can be challenging, particularly when color matching red and white oak in one area of the home. (Ive read LOTS of old posts!). Thank you. I was thinking Bona Natural and then Bona Extra Matte finish? Carlyweiss, your post and pictures are so helpful for those of us in the choosing process. Is that really that difficult? It is not the homeowner's fault that the job was bid too low (but they did accept the bid)but it is now the homeowner's experience (part of the decision process of taking the low bid) to live through a full sand and refinish of a brand new floor. Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. Red oak stairs - Do I install white oak floors or red? If you have 3000sf then the $2500 upgrade is nothing. . If you you know you are doing something we offer on floor samples (3x3) in many combinations and finishes. And this will continue to occur until the finish is "done right". Finished with three matte protective coats. . No scrape, no scratch, no nothing. No one does work for free. @J Sk did you use natural sealer or natural stain? I personally love Quartzite. My installer has Amber i think yhat will be too dark. You are looking at putting the cart before the horse. Our hardwood installer and contractor use DuraSeal products often and Bona Mega. First - The second pic you gave looks really weird. Please leave this post up. True Quartzite is higher on the mohl's scale of hardness then granite. Some comments that NaturalSeal has a slight white cloudiness? @Moran Blueshtein, We are having about 3500 sq feet of the wood installed and finished plus stairs. Web108K views 6 years ago. Think NCAA and NBA courts. Have a wet rag handy to wipe away mistakes and drips. There are MANY people who do NOT know they are 'clean-shiny' people until they purchase matte floors. The coating should not come up. We peeked through the windows and the floors are covered with brown paper. @clairepope It's only been a year - so far they are perfect! Also, how many coats of sealer did you use? I originally wanted a chocolate color but realized I like more contrast between floor and furnishings than a mid tone would give me. @Ashley Your floors look beautiful. I realize your flooring was "select" not #2 and that makes a difference. YesBona Traffic HD is MUCH more expensive than over-the-counter stuff. I asked for, but he never did, an all country white one. We have only had our cabinets for about a month so I cant speak to long term durability yet but they turned out gorgeous. I'm thinking of using HI-MACS LG Hausys solid surface countertops, which I think is similar to Corian. The use of water based is VASTLY different from oil based. Our contractor informed me that it is significantly more expensive, $2500 more expensive. It will 'deepen' the colour you see (ie. It won't tell you what caused the scratching (glass particles in sand is the usual culprit. There are FAAAAR too many 'dudes' out there that call themselves pros. The cost of the floors and Bona sealer plus 3 protective coats was almost twice the price that my parents paid for the house I grew up in so be prepared to gasp and clutch your wallet. The cost of the floors is such a big expenditure that I didnt even ask the installer if or how much he was charging me for the samples I chalked it up to the overall cost of the floors. Red oak floors look horrible, help with light stain colors needed! Yep. The floor guys made custom floor vents. I wish we did three coats of the Traffic HD as he have a ton of traffic (three kids and a dog!) (The Classic has less of a haze.) Here are some of my samples. Below Jack and Jill bath with Corian countertop AND Corian integrated sinks. A hint of tan. Founded in 1919, Bona offers products for most premium floor surfaces including (Plus, the Rubio, the longer it sat there, the more tannins it pulled.) I think over the years, they learned how to avoid distressed clients who hate the finished floor color. It was not supportive or helpful. In real life, they look lighter and more uniform in color than shows up on my iPhone. WebSome 5 white oak with Bona Natural Seal and Hd traffic extra matte. Yes, Trump2 I agree. I screwed that up a few times. 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I know one of the Milesi products in the natural effects side does contain a UV filter. Thank you for asking. If you said you wanted the look of 'raw wood' then matte is what they would have brought. This is part and parcel of your payment. Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. WebInformacin detallada del sitio web y la empresa: qhhsubiquity.com, +13012001475, +13012001768, +13012001300 The Ubiquity The student news site of Quartz Hill High School I forgot to take a photo of the hand made air vent the installers made for the floor vent. They can use a big machine with a screening pad to get up most of that gunk. My tub with quartz top. That means a coat of Sealant and two coats of finish. @SJ McCarthy @mtpo I did hire an installer who installed my floor and was supposed to refinish it. I am in the same predicament and not wanting to settle for maple! Haven't made decisions on flooring yet, but I love white oak. So they use 3 gal of product and it appears the TrafficHD is $100/gal more +/- than the cheaper stuff. Watching them put it on, it doesnt look like the work applying it would be more than other finish products. @mtpo did you use a satin or matte finish? :). Thank you for your input. Dry finish. Is This the Year Blue and Green Kitchen Cabinets Edge Out White? I read some really old posts here that say stay away from the Nordic. We want to stay away from adding a yellow, green, pink or orange tint to the floor. It has come out very well. It was one coat of seal. Thank you and the pros who commented for the valuable info! are you happy with it 2+ years later (and is it holding up well with food/oil stains etc) please share any details, like if you had 2 or 3 coats. We ended up using one coat of Bona natural sealer and two coats of HD matte on the floors. I talked to the contractor and told him that I had to figure out a different finish. new and it will be white oak common # 1. Over the years, theres been a lot of things Ive cut costs on, but I feel it doesnt pay to skimp on a major feature of my new house that should last for a very long time. I dont recall the price of the lumber / the price our builder charged us (he ordered it on his account). I like natural white oak with your concept. If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. Also thank you for post and thank you too other posters. The light white washing will give you the raw look. @j, @ Renee, It is satin. I have found some great inspirational pictures. Thanks for leaving this up. Why did you decide to go with Corian? I want to make sure the floor is fully coated and not have to buff and finish again sooner than would normally be necessary. Yours in Floors Zach Liske Floor Huggers. The raw wood that was laid (almost the whole house) looks beautiful. So it comes in at 1025 or 1.25 X 820 sf (amount of flooring ordered with sufficient for waste/scrap. Out of curiosity what width floorboards did you use (and which manufacturer did you go with)? Dark floors are pretty popular with clients but as you mention usually going with white or painted cabinets. A VERY trchnichally difgicukt finish yonachieve. If neither does anything to your floor, the floor coating is at least in reasonable shape. @Jonathan Margareten- I read through my old post, and am not sure if thats what we ended up doing. How did you retained the natural color of the wood? I lost confidence in my floor guy - I think he wasn't wiping the stain off but letting it dry on resulting in washed paint look. Also, try calling high end custom home builders in the area and ask who they use. Absolutely love the matte finish. I appreciate your pros helping on all these questions. See the before and afters and why we chose this color. I am posting some final outcome pictures in different rooms and lighting. The refinisher must take the time and the money to go to a Bona 3-day training work shop. Emily Henderson has a white metal railing in her split level home that is pretty gorgeous and widely photographed. @Lisa Pearen it would help with identification if you post photos. I have read through almost every post here looking to see how to get the most natural finish without yellowing. Thanks. The trick is to A) find the professional trained in water based finishes and B) keep the sheen to satin or matte. Here are some of my samples. They didnt have classic to sample, but the sand/finish guy said it would be closer to the Natural than IntenSeal. white oak floors, stain them or leave natural? When was the last coat applied? (Side shower walls are white). I knew this was IT. For my white oak floors - thinking of using Bona Natural Sealer or Classic or Intense. I would bet it would come in at the same price as a "buff and coat" (national average = $3/sf). Came out a little lighter, but it all depends on your preference. Sorry but that isn't the way things are done in the building industry. Granite is an igneous rock also formed from extreme heat and pressure. white oak hardwood flooring. It is less than $0.85/sf. carlyhow many coats of HD did they apply? Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. I had a question as to why you decided only to do one coat of Nordic as opposed to the recommended two? Weve been in the house with our two pups a little over a year now and the floors are holding up - so far, so good. I believe they put Bona Mega One over the top just for example, but we will be using Bona Traffic HD. Get the third coat of sealer. I think the choice will be between the Natural and the Classic Seal. Would love to see pics of the InteseSeal, as we are considering the same. It is the way it is normally done. Pretty sure they bleached their cabinets but who knows at this point. They were super rich! By the way, did you use any fillers to fill the knots and gaps between the planks? WebBona Traffic HD Anti Slip Satin Water-Based Wood Floor Finish - 1 Gallon BKWBTRAFFICHDANTISLIPSATING01 $153.58 Unit Size: 1 Availability: In Stock Add To List Add To Cart Bona Domo Satin-Matte Water-Based Wood Floor Finish - 1 Gallon BKWBDOMOSATIN-MATTEG01 $64.99 Unit Size: 1 Availability: In Stock Add To List We only did two and are already seeing wear and tear on the first floor in our main living space. When it came to a finish, I didn't want any red or yellow coloration. Our contractor suggested Bona Mega to save some money. It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. It was another rude comment from someone who was engaging in further confrontation.Ive already asked Houzz to delete the post. He did know his stains and how it would finishI will give him that. The one that Bona advertizes as clear made our wood look a tiny bit orange. One more thing, the rooms Ive put this flooring in are the master bedroom, guest bedroom and an office, so no heavily trafficked areas. Titan and Fortico can go on top of the waxes and reactives. These posts priceless. Here Bona Natural is on the left in front of fireplace and Nordic is on the right surrounded by sanded white oak. The training may be 'free' but the cost to fly there, rent hotel room + food for 3 days (and lose 3 days worth of income) and fly back take money. Never make color selections off a computer screen or printed brochure. Its small enough, you should be able to manage it. 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I believe there is a local one and I plan to at least explore that. Thanks again! It must be sanded down and done again. (I didnt think about this before adding the bookcases.) :), @bowmeister67 and @widdy23 I used exactly what bowmeister said , 1 coat of Bona Nordic seal and 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin. Obviously flooring isnt my specialty, but it is yours. A gallon of Varathane = $80 (Home Depot). Here's how to see if marble's right for you, A couple remodel their kitchen to better match their 19th-century Oregon homes style, The cabinets and a new layout transform a once-dark New Jersey kitchen into a light and bright space, Avoid going too traditional and too clean by introducing an off-white palette that brings a touch of warmth and elegance, Sure, white kitchens are beautiful when theyre sparkling clean. The webpages say that Classic "highlights the natural color of the wood" while Natural is "designed to retain the appearance of unfinished wood" but having seen the raw, sanded wood which was remarkably gray, I don't know how the latter is possible.