Ive had to wait a long time for this convenience the last payware product that offered this luxury was the Super 80 Pro by Coolsky/Flight1. With a bit of practice, the FMC can be programmed in 10 minutes at most. To be sure, the NGX sets new standards in a few areas that all future aircraft will need to be measured by but it also does have its flaws, even if they only marginally impact the overall impression. Founder of AVSIM Online. Native PMDG datalink simulation compatible with simBrief integration. I really took the system to its extremes here. All times are GMT. Emi is a IRL 737 pilot and most everything you need to know is well described in the various vids on his channel. I checked failiures since i just wanted a routine flight and there was none, however it the horn was sounding. WebCabin Altitude: Controllable or Uncontrollable 10,956 views Sep 26, 2020 190 Dislike Share Boeing 737 Pro 1.83K subscribers Following a rapid depressurization, this video shows I dont know. On the one hand, the specific sound system has a strong influence. This also implies that single engine flight is simulated quite well at least in terms of performance. This was a release that the community has spent a long time waiting for after all, the airliner was initially announced for 2010. Oski: I dont even have to go that far. I have no problems whatsoever with CTDs at least not so far, despite using various Mega- and Orbx airports and ASE. Check your pressurization panel. New York John F Kennedy International Airport (KJFK), The Janitor - An Interview with Tom Allensworth, Interview with Joshua Howard Re MS FLIGHT - March 2012, Interview with LMOC Re P3D - September 2012, The AVSIM Hack - First Published in May, 2009, The AVSIM Hack - The Full Story - Published April 2013. I say this because if the 2D FMC is on a secondary screen, you cannot use keyboard entry you can neither use the tab key nor activate the input line in the scratch pad. The FAA said in the order Thursday that if both switches failed, the warning system would not activate if the cabin altitude exceeded 10,000 feet at which point oxygen levels on board could become dangerously low and cause flight crews to lose consciousness, it said. This is an extreme feat, and to us lay people, it is hard to grasp that it is even possible to execute such a procedure many times a second without a hitch. Cabin Altitude Warning - PMDG Simulations. Or if the FMC crashes completely because sloppily programmed clickspots cause me to flip the wrong switch on the overhead and power down the flight computers? It added: "Addressing these failures requires immediate action.". To me, the PMDG is a perfect add-on but in view of the great add-ons that have appeared in the last three months alone, you have to be really careful not to overuse the superlative. There is one thing you simply have to realize today: Given the high memory requirements of complex simulations, youre simply better off with a 64-bit system because, as a rule, the address space is large enough in contrast to 32-bit systems, where you quickly reach the limits. It really is a joy to work with. Movieman162, January 8, 2012 in PMDG 737NGX | 737NGXu, HiI have just done two flight in the 737-800NGX Winglets aircraft and on both at one point or another in climb i got the cabin altitude warning horn. For FSX, this is a real quantum leap and the system is perfect for the PMDG 737 NGX. PMDG Boeing 737900 v3.0.63 February 25, 2023 145 Comments SimPlaza Recommended, MSFS 2020 Aircraft, PMDG Info Note: You can download the PMDG Operations Center here or from our own upload here to get liveries for this aircraft and update any older version of this aircraft instead of downloading it here. You never have the feeling that something might not be right. 1) SIGN YOUR POSTS. Here, the developers blundered! PMDG obviously did not want to expose themselves on this flank, which is why the add-on contains a balanced mixture of detail and functionality, without losing itself in resource-hungry bling-bling a la CaptainSim. You will never be able to learn to fly using a computer simulation, but you can certainly operate a B737 using correct systems procedures this add-on proves that beyond a doubt. I tried pressing the master caution and warning buttons, but the alarm kept going off. Yes, MLD Scenery develops payware products for sale at SIMMARKET https://secure.simmarket.com/mld-sc, when is this gonna be launched, it is gonna cost money? The exterior and interior model are based on the original blueprints from Seattle. Holger: Oski, why do you recommend that even experienced Boeing 737 NG pilots should use the documentation (at the very least parts of it) to familiarize themselves with this add-on? What I observe time and again is that there are suitable and less suitable configurations. There is no perfect add-on! He is now our man for the fine details, and the focus of his assessment will lie on visuals, haptics and sound. All of the various equipment and setup variants are also controlled via the CDU this is intuitive, and changes are made at once. There is a 12,000 foot mod. I have good frame rates (20+ for instance at Mega-Airport Zrich) when in the VC and even better frame rates (30+) with the 2D panels. But it is only natural that the cooperation with Boeing which has been stressed time and again and the use of original plans and blueprints should also have its effects here, and not only on systems depth. It makes the transition to single-engine flight much too harmless. The investment has been worthwhile; with very high display settings, MyTraffic, ActiveSkyEvolution and REX2 clouds, the PMDG flies absolutely fluidly at a Mega airport with a good 20+x fps; at the gate, frames may dip to 12-15 on occasion. Hit trip reset and switch iso valve to auto. The NG, too, can perform a go-around from a fail-operational dual autoland configuration, but the NGX cant. is there a tutorial on how to set this correctly and not get the annoying alarm? And set the local altimeter coming down through the translation level. In PMDGs forum, Robert S. Randazzo, the head of PMDG, confers the highest accolades on his sound designer, and I would like to echo this praise. Applying for medicals to start PPL soon. The Boeing 737-800 and -900 simply look incredibly good, too! Look for "Edit Post Signature." For example : the landing gear warning horn sounds continuously if you are at flaps 15+ without the gear down. Oskar Wagner was a Captain with a large Swiss airline for many years, flying a large variety of types, and he also worked as a Fokker company test pilot flying new aircraft in preparation for delivery. The hydraulic cylinders of the slaps and flaps are also modelled in 3D. I'm not up to speed on the pneumatic system as I'm not a 737 pilot IRL, but I suspect this is because you have the isolation valve set to open instead of auto. But lets put the 737 to the test, Captain! All they do is allow the packs to run at a lower airflow rate to improve fuel economy. 510 minutes are enough to configure the rest of the systems for home use. check out the. And this is why PMDG recommend a 64-bit system in their requirements. You can probably tell that many of these questions will not interest most virtual Boeing captains, who follow the motto: Can I use this to recreate my last summer holiday flight or not? But those who have knowledge of the subject matter and know what the different configuration options mean will find great satisfaction in them. And if the nitpickers now go searching for non-functional switches or panels, they will quickly find something in this area: The radar image, which can also be overlaid on the ND, does not exist. Even though the systems simulation is extremely comprehensive, the aircraft itself, apart from the FMC, is not particularly complex, as long as you dont punish yourself with systems failures. Do this by clicking the username pull-down at the top right, then selecting "User Settings." Is the first impression misleading? Holger: Nick Collett from Angle of Attack has published a walkaround through the virtual cockpit on Vimeo that shows not only design-specific details but also introduces some of the systems. Not too lazy and not too agile. After all not all use VC or single monitor. 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You took the time to be here, we want to get to know you. In 2003, by the way, he reviewed PMDGs Boeing 737 NG for FS2002 and FS2004, and he later went on to review the various Boeing 737 NG from Ariane, too. This is one of the few rigid rules that we enforce regularly. So lets leave it at very good or excellent. The FAA didn't say there had been any in-flight failures of the switches. And this is a good thing after all, there are already more than enough other freeware and payware options for novices .This is not a game, this is a simulation of a working environment. It just doesnt work. Holger, on the other hand, has already been unlucky several times. True. I fly using TrackIR, and I dont need the 2D panel at all. Highly integrated exterior, interior cabin and flight deck sound environments. They don't add air to the cabin.Kevin Hall. A comparison would have to be made, though, across the whole range from the -600 to the -900. The aircraft they have delivered this time round, however, is really quite beautiful and modelled in great detail; it even features a cabin that is visible from the external view, which is not really typical for PMDG. The following image shows an example of this that occurred with the SID RWY 28 ZUE 1V in LSZH. Numerous user configurable options from throughout the global 737 operator fleet. No jerkiness whatsoever! Thanks. Today, he consults for and tests various Flight Simulator projects. endobj But lets get back to the core topic of complexity for a moment: Do I have to be an expert to fly the 737 NGX within the boundaries of the Normal Procedures? Cant seem to find anything other than the P3D one, This alarm is not the AP disconnect, it's different. The FAA said it doesn't have enough information yet to explain why the failure rate of the switches is "unexpectedly high" and recommended that airlines return any failed switches so that the switch manufacturer, which it didn't name, could investigate the issue. This really applies to all of the working space of the captain. An important indicator is always the transition to single-engine flight. Don O2 Masks and establish communications (boom to mask in the ACP) 2. But the general impression is very good. Tom Allensworth, Even in critical situations I can make all necessary inputs using my mouse hand without having to let go of the yoke, for instance to open a panel (I have a Saitek yoke/throttle unit and rudder pedals). Holger: When the BAe Jetstream was released, Robert Randazzo, the head of PMDG, wrote that there would be no more add-ons with 2D panels. PMDG should really have deserved this distinction, which unlike the simFlight awards is awarded by the reviewers. You will become aware of many details you would not previously have paid attention to. endobj These cookies will be stored in your browser only with your consent. Ok thanks, now I know where to look. The directive includes the 737 Max. My solution to this has been the VRInsight MCP combo on one hand and a touch screen on the other. As a result of this, the A pillar in these airplanes is more inclined, and the bulge does not remind me as much of the nose of my former Latin teacher as the one in the PMDG. Why dont I say it deserves the maximum rating? But I have every trust in the expertise of PMDGs team and in the communitys swarm intelligence. Precision Manuals Development Group (PMDG) has followed suit and recently released their interpretation of the Boeing 737 NG. The depiction is clear and has very good performance within the limits of the available data after all these do come from the FSX terrain model. There are a lot of things happening in the flight deck that can cause a warning. This is fun! After all, if something is perfect, it can no longer be outdone. . But the thing that really amused me slightly was RSRs explanation for why the throttle quadrant was left out: He said it was due to lack of time. Exterior values: Model, performance, and sound, First impressions count, as they say. In addition to the performance problems on older systems, which were to be expected, there were also reports of inexplicable crashes CTDs and freezes. They were set to 38000ft cruise alt and 150ft landing alt on both occasions. . It has also been discussed in the PMDG forum. Or if I adjust the bank limiter instead of the heading bug? As a result of this, the A pillar in these airplanes is more inclined, and the bulge does not remind me as much of the nose of my former Latin teacher as the one in the PMDG. Did we ever figure out what caused the dual bleed trip? If we want to count all of the lateral and vertical flight guidance by the FMC with LNAV and VNAV as part of automatic flight, we have to begin noting the first imperfections. Has PMDG thought of pilots like you? My old computer, a first-generation quad core with 2.93 GHz (QX6800) should probably be able to handle the PMDG, too, but a mixture of complex sceneriesandthe 737 NGX would definitely be pushing it! Oski: Stefan has already mostly answered this question. PMDG Customer Forums. No doubt there will always be some room for discussion whether the trim sound, say, is too quiet or whether the spoiler extension on landing sounds quite so or a bit different. Under the FAA's order on Thursday, operators have to inspect the switches every 2,000 flight hours, compared with the current 6,000 hours. PMDG Operations Center 2.0 for easy livery installation and ease of receiving free product updates from PMDG. The concept is explained extensively in the documentation and has even been improved over previous products (MD-11, Jetstream). All new models, entirely new textures, a completely new sound environment and tens of thousands of changes, adaptations, improvements and fixes, the PMDG 737-900 is the ultimate realization of flight simulation, forty years in the making. This makes sense because I I suppose it is simply impossible to program a perfectly flawless FMC. OMG this makes no sense, top three switches you could literally be talking about any number of switches lol, Also had this issue, good to have you guys around to help us learn this complex aircraft. Holger: Performance is a good key word. They use entirely different methods of calculation and therefore cannot yield the same results. Giuseppe Nelva We start a release, the DHC-1 Chipmunk, which was launched by Aeroplane Heaven. This is very inconvenient and detracts from the overall impression. To me, the 737 NGX is by far the best and most innovative and so the most significant aircraft add-on in a long time. Holger: Are there systems that are particularly innovative or that deserve particular attention? Their failure could mean that cabin oxygen levels fall dangerously low, the FAA said. After further investigation and analysis, however, the airplane manufacturer and the FAA concluded in May that "the failure rate of both switches is much higher than initially estimated, and therefore does pose a safety issue.". Good things take time, as they say but has a good thing indeed come of this? Stay up to date with what you want to know. At this point I do not want to enter into the tiresome discussion about different V-speeds, for instance between TOPCAT and FMC. What this means in practice is evident to the customer the first time they load the 737. Theyre wonderful, dont you think? Each Boeing plane has two pressure switches on board as a safeguard in case one fails, following a 2012 FAA mandate. Oski: In simming, expert is always a relative term. Stefan, can this complexity actually be operated well? This means it is certainly worth your time to take a look at an up-to-date manual. The Boeing 737 NGX is certainly not an airplane that can be recommended in good faith to an absolute novice. Stefan: A few months ago I treated myself to a new computer because I finally wanted to max out FSX and be prepared for products like the PMDG 737NG. What is your take on the sound, Stefan? Here at the Benzinger home, it is customary that I build a Revell model kit for every new FS add-on I buy and in this case, the PMDG model clearly beats it! With this present product, however, the shadows are very few and far between. check out the. You should bring a bit of systems knowledge to the table. The only weakness I have found in this regard is the way the engine loses thrust when the fuel lever is closed. They are normally turned off for take-off (because they use bleed air which in turn Your cabin altitude is 13000ft. On the other hand, it is not a simple matter to mix the various sounds correctly. To me, at least, part of the fun of simming consists of flying different aircraft types. And so also the FMC of the NGX has a hiccup from time to time. And after all, the community is made up not only of pilots with virtual type ratings and hardcore simmers who plan and execute their flights with great dedication and knowledge, but also of many with an aesthetic inclination who frown at sludgy textures or mushy pixels and complain if exterior features such as pitot tubes or antennas are missing. The reason is simple: The PMDG B737 NGX has really been simulated almost completely in all systems including Flight Guidance, of course. Why do I have that red warning light and how can I solve it? Sign up for notifications from Insider! Well, in direct comparison with other 737 NG implementations I have to say that overall, the VC in those implementations is noticeably lower, making the view through the forward window less high and wider. My specs are: Intel Core i5-2400 CPU 3.1GHz, 8 GB RAM, Windows 7 64-bit and nVidia GeForce GTX470 with 2 displays or one display for the 2D panel and a projector for the external view. No requests for older versions of an add-on, this is pointless almost always due to new features/fixes. You simply need to know the standard procedures. And of course there are also pilots such as Oski who have not experienced a single CTD to date. houses for rent san antonio Simply ignoring the alarm will lead to an almost certain crash, as shown by flight Helios 522, which never pressurised and crashed due to fuel exhaustion. Stefan: Another example: The elevators have trim tabs with their own animations at extreme deflections, they move in opposite directions. Better solutions to this are possible, as A2A, for example, have demonstrated strikingly with their sound system. But that usually takes a bit of effort, and many simmers still shy away from that. As above. You didn't set the bleeds and/or packs correctly after your engine start. Work through that section of the checklist again on your next flight. Hav In such conditions, a flow experience will never come about. The way Oski describes it you probably dont have much time for wild mouse acrobatics. In the case of cockpit views, I am of the same mind frame as Captain Oski, I prefer 2D panels and was pleased to hear of the inclusion of a 2D panel but disappointed that some things were left out of it. You can keep APU BLEED ON until 17,000ft to be usable but you do need BOTH PACKS ON AUTO and BLEED PACKS AIR ON AUTO. But of course it is true that you should equip yourself with enough hardware that the mouse has to be used as little as possible no matter whether you use the VC or the 2D panels. We do so because we feel that forums in which users must engage one another personally are generally warmer, more collegial and friendly. A 2D panel is simply more convenient for that. 4 0 obj As a user, you dont have total control over all sound levels except, that is, if you have some knowledge of the sound.cfg file and fiddle around with it. And at this point, I again need to make an important digression: As usual, I have read the whole spectrum of assessments in the PMDG forums from too sensitive to too sluggish. The PMDG Boeing 737 NGX does have a few flaws, but they do not detract from the general impression. To read their verdict, click read more. Almost makes me want to run out and make the purchase, but my i5 and 3gb ram and windows xp may not be able to keep up. My experience with real world autopilots has been consistently good and definitely on the level of simulator autopilots if I may make the comparison in the reverse direction for once. Surprising, but its a fact. The deeper you are prepared to involve yourself with this simulation, the more demanding it becomes to fly the beast realistically. I can imagine that on the B737 the difference in engine sound from the shortest to the longest variant is quite noticeable I know it is like this between the A319 and the A321. The present 737 interpretation from PMDG, to me, is the climax of this development (for the present?). The image galleries on airliners.net dont really help either, because many of the images have been post-processed and stretched. It seems all the more understandable, then, that such a calculation can, on occasion, go awry To be quite clear: The absolute majority of customers do not have any problems with the product, and PMDG has already released a hotfix to help customers that are suffering crashes.